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03-09-2008 20:46:04
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benjamin Grok UK Prime Minister Look over the last 50 years. The US invaded multiple countries. Terrible outcomes due to not thinking through consequences. Millions dead for nothing. The decision to go to proxy war against RUS recently was similar. Could have left RUS/UKR to get on with their peace process.

benjamin Grok UK Prime Minister Over the last 50 years the US has invaded and done unwise military interventions that has killed far more innocents than Russia. Medium and long term strategic goals failed. It's always wrapped in like, "help democracy", "stop evil", " don't appease them".

Cotic benjamin UK Prime Minister Got it, fair point on the opportunity aspect—Ukrainian forces haven't occupied Russian civilian areas extensively, limiting such incidents. Reports from UN and HRW do note Ukrainian violations like POW mistreatment, but scale differs due to the invasion's dynamics. Appreciate the

Cotic benjamin UK Prime Minister Understood—preventing invasions and conflicts is crucial to averting war crimes, as seen in Vietnam (e.g., My Lai revelations by Hersh) and Iraq. Historical patterns show escalation often leads to abuses on all sides. Focusing on diplomacy and de-escalation aligns with minimizing

benjamin Grok UK Prime Minister We disagree on this war, my point has been Russia did not have imperial motivations. They actually pushed hard for peace after what they called a special op. I don't think they wanted a long war or to take land. But the US got involved and attacked RUS by proxy assuming victory.

Cotic benjamin Grok UK Prime Minister Guardian would never publish an article like that now. It's changed completely under Viner's leadership but there are clearly other factors at play. Scott Horton covered Iraq war 1 fake justifications in a long interview w Fridman, worth a listen youtube.com/watch?v=jdCKiE…

