Back in the real world, what has done huge damage to the UK fishing industry? The Tories’ Brexit deal - which risked knocking a staggering 30% off fishing output by creating huge barriers for a sector dependent on exporting to the EU

BBC's ben Chu sums up the UK-EU reset 0.04% gain for fishing 1.1% gain for food manufacturing A far cry from the 5% GDP that Brexit is costing the UK

The way the Brexit right has carried on today, you’d think Starmer just rejoined the EU. If only! In reality Starmer just made Brexit slightly less shit, slightly more stable for a little longer. You’d think they’d thank him.

Right. The morning after the Uk-EU summit. Is it too much to hope that everyone whose entire political vocabulary consists of “Brussels”, “fisherman”, “betrayal” and “surrender” has now slunk back into the woodwork? Is it safe to come out now?

You wouldn't know it from today's newspaper front pages screaming "betrayal", but new YouGov polling finds that 66% of British people now want the Government to deliver a closer relationship with the EU, compared to just 14% who don't

I’m guessing the answer is not “Clacton”

All the anti-immigration rhetoric did the trick then.

It must be so hard for all those members of the right wing commentariat who have since childhood lost sleep over the fate of the Chagos Islands.

So relatable.

I can’t do this anymore. This site is a sewer. The “stay and fight” argument is all very well, but even if you’re reciting Shakespeare, who’s listening when raw sewage is being blasted at you from every angle? All human nastiness is here, revived and advancing.

I mean - whatever you think of Starmer - fucking correct.

It’s the exact same mistake as with Brexit. Telling people “don’t go there” while simultaneously going there with your own rhetoric and immigration policy.

Really tired of the endless lump fallacy posts about defence spending vs welfare spending. Remember that the Attlee government, founders of the NHS, founder members of NATO, spent big on both.

UK referendums are weird, aren’t they? Vote in an election and we all know the mandate expires in 5 years. But a referendum - how long before expiry? It seems to be a totally unspecified “long time”, a “generation”, maybe, whatever that is. They just seem half thought through.

Would she follow the lead of France, Denmark, Belgium and others and join the EU.

There are two types of European country: those that are in the EU, because it makes economic sense, and those that build closer ties with the EU, because it makes economic sense. There is only one where this has become the economic sense that dare not speak its name.

I mean, who knew Trump and Musk would have a massive fall out except for everybody?

Why shouldn’t people be chucked out of places for their politics? The whole point of politics is they describe what is and isn’t publicly acceptable. They set the boundaries. If you say there must be no boundaries you are ironically saying there must be no politics.