Even the most effective gamification and incentives cannot compensate for mediocre service, value or product, nor can they redress a relationship based on flawed principles

Incentives and loyalty are hard, and everyone’s dealing with them. If you’re deep in it, let's chat

The real test Product: add a price, will they pay? Quests: remove rewards, will they stay? still play?

Loyalty, points… often overlooked and misused. But they deserve real attention. How do we make them actually work for our space? Come join us and build the answers.

shocking & unexpected behavior

when you plant a seed with curiosity and first principles, it grows into meaningful work appreciated by the real ones in the trenches thank you SEED CLUB, was a great one

"Let’s add incentives and we’ll get users, community, and PMF." But everyone forgot Mahalo vs Quora. Mahalo paid users and became a content farm. Quora paid nothing and built a community. Mahalo died. Quora thrived. Incentives can’t fix what product & purpose don’t deliver.

it's pretty bad. some founders did it and regretted it. buying fake engagement solves nothing, and the cost adds up fast. maybe they lacked real users or product-market fit. it usually means they're covering something up and that sends all the bad signals

a bad product don't retain points/quests don't fix a bad product -> points don't fix retention CAC means nothing without retention -> airdrops are bad for most projects

it helps with hiring as well. build an MVP with Replit ⠕ , prove demand/value, and rally the right technical co-founders

2025: ... treatment of numbers

we predict with bias; markets price it. incentives at work

discounted ICO for community instead of an airdrop

behavioral economics shows that most pick 100% chance of $500 over 50% chance of $1,000 in losses, it flips. they become risk seekers preferring 50% chance of -$1K over 100% chance of -$500 thus, with death as the max loss, life is about purposeful risks founder mode