Dr Femke de Jong 🌊
@fmkdejong
Physical Oceanographer at the Netherlands Institute for Sea Research (NIOZ). I am a human as well as a scientist. Views my own. @[email protected]
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RAPID National Oceanography Centre University of Miami Rosenstiel School Arne Biastoch @BenMoat1 Jon Robson Gerard McCarthy IPCC CEN Uni Hamburg @cenunihh.bsky.social EPOC project Patrick Heimbach Shane Elipot Dr Femke de Jong 🌊 @JohannesKarst Sunke Trace-Kleeberg @np_holliday @David_Smeed Summary report in progress. Sneak peak: - A need to reconcile missing key processes - New approaches for basin-scale #AMOC understanding - Compound impacts of AMOC with carbon and cryosphere - Articulation of societal impacts Maybe education too. AMOC is not the Gulf Stream.
Vandaag voorin de krant:Volgens Deense onderzoekers komt de machtige oceaanstroming in de Noord-Atlantische Oceaan, die het klimaat over een groot deel van de wereld regelt, mogelijk al binnen enkele decennia abrupt tot stilstand. @NIOZnieuws Dr Femke de Jong 🌊 nrc.nl/nieuws/2023/07…
Ollie Tooth @David_Smeed RAPID The overturning goes up and down. It’s a vertical circulation (seen in the yz-plane), and described in a integrative sense (across x-dir) where the net effect is to ‘tip’ the waters over (= overturning). Only found in the Atlantic. (Ok, the A in #AMOC gives it away.)
Ollie Tooth @David_Smeed RAPID Nick Foukal Where is the #GulfStream in all this? It’s part of both the horizontal and vertical circulations! It contains the western boundary current of the gyre and the northward limb of the #AMOC in the northern subtropics. Image from IPCC FAQ 9.3 shorturl.at/ehLR6
Ollie Tooth @David_Smeed RAPID Nick Foukal Major difference #1: #GulfStream v #AMOC The gyres are nicely described by theory. We can write an equation for them. As long as the wind blows and the earth rotates, a gyre will exist. A #GulfStream is essentially unavoidable. Image from Stommel 1948 (shorturl.at/dfvR0)
Ollie Tooth @David_Smeed RAPID Nick Foukal What about the #AMOC? No simple theory explains its existence! In fact doesn’t *need* to exist at all (cf. the Pacific, or an AMOC ‘shut down’ state). And we can’t write down an equation that describes the flow. Talley et al 2010 (shorturl.at/cOUV0)
Ollie Tooth @David_Smeed RAPID Nick Foukal Major difference #2: Heat transport At 26°N, the #gyre moves little heat. ~0.2 PW (0.2 x 10^15 watts). The #AMOC transports almost all the heat (1.2 PW), even though it only claims a fraction of the #GulfStream. Johns et al. 2011 (shorturl.at/wADKV)
Ollie Tooth @David_Smeed RAPID Nick Foukal Shane Elipot Msadek Rym Jon Robson @BenMoat1 Where does that leave us? (1) - #GulfStream spans Florida to Boston. - #AMOC spans South Africa to Arctic. Southern AMOC review (no Gulf Stream needed) from Chidichimo et al. (2023) shorturl.at/kyFNQ MarÃa Paz Chidichimo
Ollie Tooth @David_Smeed RAPID Nick Foukal Shane Elipot Msadek Rym Jon Robson @BenMoat1 MarÃa Paz Chidichimo Sabrina Speich @CristinaArumi97 Where does that leave us? (2) - #GulfStream transport is large, and contributes to gyres and overturning. - #AMOC is smaller, but dominates heat transport. Review from Jackson et al. (2022) on AMOC since 1980 shorturl.at/dnFY6