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Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 Natural progression of the Spirit from the Son is always to creation according to St. Cyril: You should watch the video I made on this! youtube.com/watch?v=iXEc3O…
Blues Blues Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 I've offered to speak to Wagner on the Angel of the Lord and he declined, I'm too "illiterate" to be taken seriously 😂
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 This is an incessant laughable response, if you actually watched my video I explained how naturally progressing forth from the Father and Son into creation is a proof of the Spirits divinity. He progresses as natural energy to work the energies of the Triad thus must be consub.
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 If you understand basic sunday school knowledge you'll know Moses spoke as intermediary for the God who appeared through fire relative to the delivering of the law and Stephen applies the same details: Nice attempt to change the subject.
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 This is an entirely different point with a different set of quotes, the prooftext you appealed to is him denying that the Spirit is a contingent creature because he progresses essentially, I gave Cyril's formal account for why he thinks that way.
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 Theodoret actually mentioned this to Cyril, according to Cyril affirming consub between HS and S was to satisfy the anti-filioque of the Antiochene bishops
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 Plugging your ears is childish, mutability in the Spirit is negated because he substantially progresses from both and therefore must be consubstantial if he works the essential energies of the 3 persons and is sent as their natural energy
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 The Spirit essentially progressing from the Son is the energetic progression from the Son because the energies are essential
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 Cyril says the Spirit exists as natural energy (pic 1) he says the energy is natural (pic 2) he says that the progressing as energy is natural (pic 3)
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 And being sent as an energy is to the creature; thus the manifestation of the Spirit is a substantial progression therefore all that you can cite showing an "essential progression" can be chalked up in the context of his entire corpus as being sent as an energy to creature
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 The passage you cited is him denying that being in the image of the Spirit is hypostatically bearing the Spirit, he shows our spirit is a creature but the Holy Spirit isn't so it cannot be the case He VERBATIM says the energetic/natural progression is to the creation
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 After you read my explanation (which passed my free twitter word count) read the last quote and you will see this is verbatim what Cyril says. The EXACT same argument I just made saying that if the Spirit is a creature the essence is BECAUSE HE IS SENT AS ENERGY
Christian B. Wagner 🔫🐒 proof for my premise "things which have the same energy must have the same nature"