Rodger L Nelson
@rln_nelson
Retired Fisheries Biologist, US Forest Service: Fish Habitat Research Biologist & Data Analyst/Manager. Biology Honors Graduate UC Irvine. NRA life member
16-04-2014 15:38:17
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Imagine some sad dolts thinking the data have been 'made up' and saying so in public
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Jim Java ๊คถ @[email protected] James William Owens Rodger L Nelson Fred Hikes๐ถโโ๏ธBikes๐ดCamps ๐ Tom Klimczak USAMRIID.CA Craig Johnson Jim Fisher Jim D Lilly Zebra benjamin Orwell2024๐ Bourgeois Bolshevik ๐ฆ๐บ Kenneth Richard Me myself and I ๐บ๐ฆ Wowbagger โ๏ธ๐
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ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 BAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias OK, I finally got one of those round tuits and crunched the GHCNv4 rural station data.
GISS global land temp results included for comparison.
Note: GISS applies masking to mask out oceans to produce its land temps.
I don't bother with that. But still quite similar.
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ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 MRAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias Can someone help me out here?
Dodders says the avg raw v. adj V4 temp diff for 90+ yr rural&suburban stations is ~1.4C.
But when I crunched the raw+adj V4 data for 90+ year rural stations (didn't do suburban), I saw much less of a raw v. adj diff.
Any ideas? I'm stumped.
caerbannog666 James William Owens Rodger L Nelson Fred Hikes๐ถโโ๏ธBikes๐ดCamps ๐ Tom Klimczak USAMRIID.CA Craig Johnson Jim Fisher Jim D Lilly Zebra benjamin Orwell2024๐ Bourgeois Bolshevik ๐ฆ๐บ Kenneth Richard Me myself and I ๐บ๐ฆ Wowbagger โ๏ธ๐ บ๐ ฐ๐๐ ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 MRAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias You also have to pick the stations with the largest difference between the raw & adjusted values. The preliminary results show that most of his stations are in the US & are TOBS-biased. x.com/priscian/statuโฆ
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ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 MRAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias Interesting story on Lewiston
Fig 1 are station records in the area
Note airport - no way it begins in 1879!
Fig 2 is the metadata topline for the airport
Original station was water treatment plant down on the river (see fig 3)
Data before 1948 was moved to airport!
James William Owens Jim Java ๊คถ @[email protected] caerbannog666 Fred Hikes๐ถโโ๏ธBikes๐ดCamps ๐ Tom Klimczak USAMRIID.CA Craig Johnson Jim Fisher Jim D Lilly Zebra benjamin Orwell2024๐ Bourgeois Bolshevik ๐ฆ๐บ Kenneth Richard Me myself and I ๐บ๐ฆ Wowbagger โ๏ธ๐ บ๐ ฐ๐๐ ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 BAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias That's the point, dipstick.
Rodger L Nelson Jim Java ๊คถ @[email protected] caerbannog666 Fred Hikes๐ถโโ๏ธBikes๐ดCamps ๐ Tom Klimczak USAMRIID.CA Craig Johnson Jim Fisher Jim D Lilly Zebra benjamin Orwell2024๐ Bourgeois Bolshevik ๐ฆ๐บ Kenneth Richard Me myself and I ๐บ๐ฆ Wowbagger โ๏ธ๐
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ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 BAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias But what you omit - is the next part of Berkeley's process
When such sharp divisions are noted
The before and after are treated as 2 separate stations
Which they actually were!
Again, you showed Berkeley Earth was right, Rodger
James William Owens Jim Java ๊คถ @[email protected] caerbannog666 Fred Hikes๐ถโโ๏ธBikes๐ดCamps ๐ Tom Klimczak USAMRIID.CA Craig Johnson Jim Fisher Jim D Lilly Zebra benjamin Orwell2024๐ Bourgeois Bolshevik ๐ฆ๐บ Kenneth Richard Me myself and I ๐บ๐ฆ Wowbagger โ๏ธ๐ บ๐ ฐ๐๐ ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 BAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias I don't care how they're treated; they (and NOAA) identified them as the same site. Anyone who knows anything about Lewiston knows how absurd that is. It was even hard to determine that they were two sites; BEST just didn't do their due diligence. NOAA could (almost) be excusedโฆ
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ปโ๏ธ That Was Then This Is Now ๐บ๐ธ Casey Murph BubbasPossumRanch Brian Lowe @Fred408km Stephen Connolly Roger Coppock Dr. Dan Cady ๐บ๐ฆ โฎ๏ธ ๐ง๎จ Jim Gorman Mervyn Robin Hagues ๐ญ๐ธ โ๏ธ FactChecker76 MRAF Sharon Patterson Aanthanur ๐ฌโฃ๏ธSpurgly Donaldโฃ๏ธ๐ฌ steven mosher #bitcoin Reinhard Kuhn Over400ppm bart Mystick Theater Claude ๐ญ๐น๐ฉ๐ช๐บ๐ธ๐ซ๐ท๐ฎ๐ฑ Boothe @RushhourP #AaronBushnell #RefaatAlareer #RachelCorrie Setophaga Calvin (Zod ) Lord King Frederik Friends of Science Winder ๐ฉ๐Dave Dent #SmashtheWEF Will Huygens Marc E. Elias Reading comprehension, Rodger
Berkeley uses change or break points to separate the records like Lewiston
In their original work, 36,866 records became 179,928 record fragments
And each fragment is treated separately
This let's the data speak and largely circumvents poor metadata
