Dr Helen J not moving on Williams she/her🇪🇺🐦
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19-05-2010 07:30:43
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Dr Helen J not moving on Williams she/her🇪🇺🐦 When I ask maths teachers and leaders of what this means to them, the most common response is that routine is when pupils have seen something very similar before and are, in effect, recalling and applying (perhaps with some minor adaptations) those techniques.
Dr Helen J not moving on Williams she/her🇪🇺🐦 Non-routine is most usually described as when pupils have not seen something especially similar and have to show greater ingenuity - for example combining techniques in ways they have not been taught or seen before.
Yorkshire Steve I think for me (and maybe Polya!) a ‘routine’ problem is not really a problem at all, as a problem is something you haven’t met before & don’t know how to solve
Dr Helen J not moving on Williams she/her🇪🇺🐦 That is something I hear sometimes, when I ask the question.
Less clear what the difference is between routine, and non-routine, in that case, though?
Yorkshire Steve I don’t think ‘routine’ is a useful word to use in relation to solving problems. I can’t think of a good example where it helps me teach and learners learn.
A bit like “increasingly complex” - for whom?
Dr Helen J not moving on Williams she/her🇪🇺🐦 Yorkshire Steve A problem is something that you have to find a way into, for which you have to develop or find a strategy that eventually leads you to a solution. So 'routine' does not seem an appropriate adjective to apply to 'problem'!
Mary Pardoe Dr Helen J not moving on Williams she/her🇪🇺🐦 Yorkshire Steve However, we sometimes recognise a structure similar to problems we’ve solved in the past and this can help
Pete Griffin Mary Pardoe Yorkshire Steve Hello Pete! 👋
Yes- but I do t think ‘routine’ and ‘non routine’ help here as descriptions of problems or problem solving
Dr Helen J not moving on Williams she/her🇪🇺🐦 Mary Pardoe Yorkshire Steve I recall an anecdote from David Fielker. Q: how do you teach your pupils to solve problems A: I give them problems to solve